Variable length too long--empty variables?

variable length too long for empty column

This might help: http://www.opencdisc.org/forum/rule-sd1082-actually-required

Comment by doetzman and follow up.

Hi Ceci,  It's a bug. A fixed

Hi Ceci, 

It's a bug. A fixed Auto-Update version will be available in few days.

Sorry for inconvenience.

Kind Regards, 

Sergiy

Is this bug still ongoing?

Dear Sergiy, 

we're in 2020 and I'm experiencing the exact same issue as this user in 2005.

Is it to be fixed again?

Or shall I simply provide comments along that issue to the FDA?

Thanks a lot in advance for your feedback.

Best regards,

Isabelle

Sergiy

on October 20, 2020

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Hi Isabelle,  What version…

Hi Isabelle, 

What version of validation engine do you use?

Thank you,
Sergiy

The version we use is the…

The version we use is the following:

FDA (1907.02)

(the latest available)

We already had the issue with the previous one (Validation engine = 1903.01), as we issued preliminary reports in August. But that problem was limited to one variable.

Excess,Variable   1,VSLNKGRP     SD1082     FDAB018        Variable length is too long for actual data

Now it seems more widespread accross multiple domains:

Excess,Variable   1, AECONTRT

Excess,Variable   1, AESCONG

Excess,Variable   1, AESDISAB

Excess,Variable   1, AESDTH

Excess,Variable   1, AESHOSP

Excess,Variable   1, AESLIFE

Excess,Variable   1, AESMIE

Excess,Variable   1, CEOCCUR

Excess,Variable   1, ISBLFL

Excess,Variable   1, QSDRVFL

Excess,Variable   1, SUDOSU

Excess,Variable   1, VSBLFL

Excess,Variable   1, VSLNKGRP

Hope this will help you figure this out.

Thanks a lot in advance.

Best regards,

Isabelle

Sergiy

on October 21, 2020

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Hi Isabelle, This bug was…

Hi Isabelle, 

This bug was introduced in OpenCDISC Community v2.0 and fixed in the next release few months later in early 2015.

So, my assumption is that you are still using extremely outdated version of OpenCDISC Community 2.0 with new configs files.

Please be aware that such approach does not work and produces incorrect validation results. Configuration files (e.g., engine 1907.2) must be executed only by version of validator they refer to (1907.2).    

Kind Reagrds,
Sergiy

Clarification

Dear Sergiy,

We made some verifications on the versions we use.
Pinnacle21 version: 3.1.0
Validation Engine: FDA (1907.02) (along with the configs files provided at download)
Configuration: SDTM-IG 3.2 (FDA)

To clarify the issue, here is an example of what we experiment with the variable AESDTH.
We set all the value of that variable to "N", then no error message pops out.
Afterwards, we set one value to empty, and the error message SD1082 pops out.

We didn't experiment the issue on that domain with the previous version of Pinnacle21 (3.0.2).

Unlike what I previously stated in one of my message, it is following the upgrade of Pinnacle21 Community 3.0.2 to 3.1.0 that made the problem worse for us (no impact came from the upgrade of engine).
Initially only one domain was impacted with that issue (VS Domain).
After that Pinnacle21 update, all domains were impacted once a variable had a length = 1 and for which at least one value was null.

Thanks a lot in advance for any advise on this matter.

Best regards,

Isabelle

Sergiy

on October 28, 2020

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Hi Isabelle,  Unfortunately…

Hi Isabelle, 

Unfortunately, we cannot reproduce your reported issue. Could you provide sample dataset?

Thank you,
Sergiy

sergiy at pinnacle21 dot com